Friday, September 16, 2005

Another Symbol of American History and Religion Falls

Now that U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton, a Carter appointee with many loony decisions behind him, has ruled that the Pledge of Allegiance’s reference to one nation "under God" violates school children's right to be "free from a coercive requirement to affirm God", a new battle has been joined. The judge has granted legal standing to two families represented by an atheist who lost his previous battle before the U.S. Supreme Court.

The founders of our country were well aware that history teaches that when there is one established religion, there is tyranny; when there are two religions, there is war; and when there are many religions, there can be peace and freedom.

This is why they were so careful to arrange a structure of government that would never recognize and support a particular religion. On the other hand, belief in an Almighty God was evident in everything they said and did, and is ingrained in our Constitution, our Declaration of Independence, our coinage and in our public institutions and practices.

Until the wider acceptance of Darwinism, and the cultural revolution of the 1960’s and 1970’s, among other influences, the separation of religion and government together with the acknowledgement of God in our history seemed to work pretty well.

Nowadays, not a day goes by that some group or person is attempting to remove from public life another symbol of God or Christianity – from the pledge, as above, from the courthouse, from the commons, etc. Why do conservatives cringe and react when these things happen? We object to these removal attempts because we sense that hatred of religion is often the motivating factor, and not protection of the Constitution.

There is a big difference between passing a law that establishes a state religion, and recognizing that belief in God is enmeshed in our history and enshrined in our traditions. As far as the pledge is concerned, another symbol of American traditions has been threatened, one that we have had for more than 50 years. It is absurd that a school child can’t just ignore the words he has been taught to hate so that all the rest of us can have our children learn to honor a traditional American value. The mention of God in the pledge has nothing to do with the establishment of a state religion. This is tyranny of the majority by a tiny minority.

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At 4:46 AM, Anonymous Joe said...

Senator Charles Schumer was a guest on the O'Reilly Factor last night, and Bill asked Schumer what he thought of the latest attempt by an activist Judge to strike God from the Pledge of allegiance, and Schumer cringed and said that he thought that it was just terrible. Anyone who has ever followed people like Schumer, Kennedy,Boxer, or biden, knows that judges like these, are the type of judicial scum in this country that these people advocate for. Schumer and others of his ilk, are so blatantly phoney. They represent the people in this country who want an "anything goes" type of government, where there is no morality, and religion stands in the way of their agendas like abortion, Gay marriage,uethanasia, and drug use. The Democrats in this country have lost my favor and their popularity is starting to dwindle.

At 9:19 AM, Anonymous steve said...

This one is a tough call. Like the arguement against multiculturalism, we could say love it or leave it...(or don't even arrive) I think we either need to decide that GOD is a defining force in our country and stop all this separation "nonsense"...or we need to decide that forcing belief/pledging/coins/monuments/banners/etc on non-believers is not appropriate.
I believe in God, but I can see the point of protection of those who do not believe. In your statement "The founders....and when there are many religions" could read "....and when there are many religious choices (including none)"
It's tough as to where to draw the line, but you suggest the child can ignore the words...maybe we could have him ignore the words, face the flag....but close his eyes also?....

I do however agree with you that this is tyranny of the majority by the minority...but I would consider that it might be warranted.

At 3:24 PM, Blogger Bob Dahl said...

I was about eleven years old when "under God" was added to the pledge. Despite being raised as a fundamentalist Christian, I wondered why "they" would do that when a lot of people don't believe in God.

I'm still wondering.

At 4:36 PM, Blogger RussWilcox said...

1. Does Congress passing this law constitute "establishment of a religion"? I think not.
2. If we let this go, what will be the next step in the campaign to remove all religious symbols from the public scene? I believe in the NRA approach, which I also support.

At 11:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


So if the US government determines that it is against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money, then, so be it.

And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it.

And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools, on which they deem their authority, then so be it.

I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding US citizen.

I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions.

I would like to think that those people have the American Publics' best interests at heart.


Since we can't pray to God, can't Trust in God and cannot Post His Commandments in Government buildings,

I don't believe the Government and it's employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honor the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of American life.

I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter. After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter as well as Sundays. After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break." After all it's just another day.

I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter.

It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically correct."

In fact....

I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all, our government says that it should be just another day....

What do you all think????

If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the minority opinions and begin, once again, to represent the 'majority' of ALL of the American people.

SO BE IT...........

Please Dear Lord, Give us the help needed to keep you in our country!

'Amen' and 'Amen'

These are definitely things I never thought about but from now on, I will be sure to question those, in government, who support these changes.

At the top, it says "I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over!!!!!"

Let's see that it does. Keep it in your mailbox and resend it whenever someone new comes along.

At 11:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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